Good points. There were centrist about slavery in 1860, and centrist about integration in 1960. You do not take people's rights from them because of you warped religious belief or tradition. Babies have no rights until they are born, and women should have complete bodily autonomy. Logic and common sense. To conservatives. Conserve what? What things about the white supremacists, misogynistic, women not having rights, child labor, genoicide against Native Americans, persecution of homosexual past should we conserve?